Do people really know what sustainability is? John MacNamara, Head of Regulatory Affairs at Bord na Móna, talks to Jeremy Probert about what sustainability means for business, why data centres should be an integral part of Ireland's sustainable energy needs, and about leading Bord na Móna’s corporate sustainability team as it transitions from being a fossil fuel company to becoming a climate solutions provider.

Created and produced by 4TC, Power & Responsibility – The Data Centre Podcast – is brought to you by Irish data centre provider Echelon Data Centres.