On Episode 2 of the Devon Business Show 2023 podcasts, Paul discusses Sustainability by Design with Steve Warren-Brown Founder of the show's Planet Partner, YGS Landscapes; Mark Hinchliffe, Director at Inch Recycling Solutions, the Virtual Goody Bag partner; and Chris Warne from Kaya Gallery, the show's Lanyard partner. The conversation includes creative solutions to sustainability problems and how businesses can avoid greenwashing.