“There is a rethinking. An economic, ecological rethinking for bringing things back into balance." Since last season, Jochen Sandig has been the director of the Ludwigsburger Schlossfestspiele, and as co-initiator of the "World Human Forum" has committed himself to making the United Nations' sustainability goals heard. In this podcast, Musicians for Solidarity talk to him about how he implements this and how it is reflected in the program of his festival.