Live from Las Vegas*,  Reimagining Cyber is back.

In this episode Rob and Stan find out how CISOs can battle the cybersecurity challenges in sustainability and transformation projects.

Their guest is Edward  Amoroso one of the world’s first ever CISOs. Ed spent over 30 years at AT&T and since retiring in 2016 he has founded TAG Cyber LLC.  TAG concentrates on global cybersecurity, artificial intelligence and sustainability, making him the ideal guest for this episode:

 “[TAG] pick topics that we think are consequential to the world, things that have existential consequence if we get it wrong.  In cyber we spend out whole life worrying about the implications of attacks on critical infrastructure and so on. We've all seen the beginnings of that. AI right now is certainly existential, I hope in a good way.  I hope we we find ways to make use of AI to improve our world. There's certainly every reason to believe that we can but there's also a dark side to any innovation. Then on the sustainability front the sort of the clarity that's emerged in the last five years around how important it is to rethink manufacturing, rethink the way we do transportation and more than anything rethink energy. So all of those things come together in topics that are prone to misinformation, topics that businesses are seeing as really important.”

Some other key quotes from the episode:
"We’ve been doing cyber for 30 years, we've learned that if you're doing something consequential or potentially vulnerable, you probably ought to have one or two board members who help to set up the culture and mood and priorities."

"One of the reasons we focus on artificial intelligence is because I think the prospects are spectacular for artificial intelligence as a base for having a really amazing defense, cyber defense that scales."

"We’re dealing with a generation of young people that were raised to think very creatively. We in cyber just haven't learned these lessons and it's urgent."

"Being critical is an act of respect. It’s showing non-respect when we just say, “thank you for doing what you do” without taking a moment and saying, “let’s make this better.”"

"I don't know too many people that are as vocal as me. I get away with it because I'm old. I just say what I'm saying because I want to make it better." 

"I'm not a big fan of the big analyst firms, I think most of them just rehash a lot of… I would use a curse word here that describes manure .It's not even data science. "

*Rob and Stan recorded the episode whilst at OpenText World 2023 in Las Vegas.

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