Suzanne Kammin, a Newark, New Jersey based artist, takes us into her

process and thoughts on being a painter who likes to play with the

reversal of figure ground only to flip it back again. Suzanne talks

about the processes she uses to "eliminate the anxiety of destroying a

work." She also speaks of her highly experimental past and what enjoying

both representational and abstract painting can do to one's process.

Listen in for more.

The artist's website: suzannekamminbaron.com/

(podcast intro/outro music by Ani DiFranco and Utah Phillips)