We need situational awareness: we cannot manage alone. We will have to take the consequences in terms of violence on Swedish territory on a much higher level if we are not members of NATO and the EU.

European defense needs to be strengthened across the whole spectrum from soft to hard security while maintaining a realistic posture on enlargement. This and much more are being discussed in this first English language podcast by Ambassadors Michael Sahlin and Lars-Erik Lundin in the context of the new RSVAWS Academy project on Sweden in NATO - deterrence, and resilience.