The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast

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In this episode of The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast, Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir explore the challenges leaders face when social and political controversies land at their doorstep. Using Jimmy Kimmel’s recent cancellation, a Chicago suburb’s flag-lowering dispute, and the famous Tempe “Dump Starbucks” incident, they discuss how leaders decide when to speak up, when to stay silent, and how to engage their teams during polarizing events. Their key message: leaders must give people a voice—without surrendering the responsibility to lead—and communicate their reasoning with courage, transparency, and respect.

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The Hollow Bunny Leadership PodcastBy Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir

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