How do you know when it’s time to change careers and quit the rat race? 

In this B-Side episode, BusinessWorld reporter John Victor D. Ordonez speaks with Lance S. Cham and Matthew R. Yu, the founders and hosts of the Project Offbeat podcast, where two corporate 9-to-5 professionals interview non-corporate guests with unique careers. 

Included in this episode is an excerpt of Project Offbeat's conversation with Stephen G. Tan, a former analyst at consultancy firm Deloitte who became a pastor.

Recorded remotely in August 2022. Produced by Joseph Emmanuel L. Garcia and Sam L. Marcelo.