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All of the models I have shared of planes, matrixes, matrices, matri … All of those models are really translation tools. What kind of books did I have the most of? Language dictionaries. And did any of them contain the essence of existence for those who spoke that language, no. They were tools, but the words were simply symbols and representations for understandings. Just like my models–ways to convey understandings, but not inherently true or meaningful. They offered a way of seeing what can’t be seen. Don’t try to extrapolate to other systems of symbols. One of the ways religions go awry is when they try to use spiritual symbols to do politics and science and rap music.
“So, always remember... no no no no... never forget that these things are just symbols, and the reality is larger than any physical symbol set. Ok, hold onto your hair. There are also spiritual symbol sets. And the spiritual symbol sets help the spiritual conceive and understand what is more universal than spirit. What?!?! Is she really saying that there are existent existences other than physical and spiritual. You bet your bippy!
“Primitive religion in the physical world was a form for understanding physical existence for those newly arrived from a pre-existing state of being. What?!?! Is she saying that the physical is only a step on a continuum, and there were other symbol sets of understanding before the physical, and there will be others beyond the spiritual. I am saying that! Now, try to get your physical and/or spiritual head around that!
“We have always moved on from simplistic singularity towards universal connection, and every expression of that progression is its own complexity which is illumined and understood.”
“Each level of complexity has its own sets of symbols and understandings. And each senses and makes comprehensible the sets that pre- and post-exist the current existence set, but no more. You have an innate sense, at your level of complexity, of something less complex and something more complex. You have chaos, physicality, and spirituality–that’s your three. But “for other levels of complexity, your physicality was their spirituality, and your spirituality is others’ chaos.” I think I have done enough damage.”
(3/6/2011 - I#186)
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By Randy and Elissa Bishop-BeckerHere's the text of this podcast:
All of the models I have shared of planes, matrixes, matrices, matri … All of those models are really translation tools. What kind of books did I have the most of? Language dictionaries. And did any of them contain the essence of existence for those who spoke that language, no. They were tools, but the words were simply symbols and representations for understandings. Just like my models–ways to convey understandings, but not inherently true or meaningful. They offered a way of seeing what can’t be seen. Don’t try to extrapolate to other systems of symbols. One of the ways religions go awry is when they try to use spiritual symbols to do politics and science and rap music.
“So, always remember... no no no no... never forget that these things are just symbols, and the reality is larger than any physical symbol set. Ok, hold onto your hair. There are also spiritual symbol sets. And the spiritual symbol sets help the spiritual conceive and understand what is more universal than spirit. What?!?! Is she really saying that there are existent existences other than physical and spiritual. You bet your bippy!
“Primitive religion in the physical world was a form for understanding physical existence for those newly arrived from a pre-existing state of being. What?!?! Is she saying that the physical is only a step on a continuum, and there were other symbol sets of understanding before the physical, and there will be others beyond the spiritual. I am saying that! Now, try to get your physical and/or spiritual head around that!
“We have always moved on from simplistic singularity towards universal connection, and every expression of that progression is its own complexity which is illumined and understood.”
“Each level of complexity has its own sets of symbols and understandings. And each senses and makes comprehensible the sets that pre- and post-exist the current existence set, but no more. You have an innate sense, at your level of complexity, of something less complex and something more complex. You have chaos, physicality, and spirituality–that’s your three. But “for other levels of complexity, your physicality was their spirituality, and your spirituality is others’ chaos.” I think I have done enough damage.”
(3/6/2011 - I#186)