In this short but powerful episode of Pelham Place, Jay Pelham is joined by author, speaker, and stroke survivor Kawan Glover to explore the important distinction between empathy and sympathy.

After surviving a brain lesion, multiple surgeries, addiction, depression, and over a million dollars in medical debt, Kawan didn’t just recover—he found purpose. Kawan is the author of Favor: How Stroke, Struggle, and Surgery Helped Me Find My Life’s Purpose, and the founder of Overcome Adversity, Kawan shares lessons that reach far beyond hardship.

Using a simple but vivid analogy of falling into a hole, Kawan illustrates how empathy means feeling with someone, while sympathy is simply feeling for them—a distinction that can deeply affect how we connect with others.

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