In this very fun conversation Jay Ligda talks to Saeed Hamzavi about the process of getting a drug approved by the us Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The FDA is a system of authority designed to protect public health by assuring food and drugs consumed are safe, effective, wholesome, sanitary and properly labeled. Topics related the the FDA and the process of getting a drug approved are, animal testing, transparency & trust. There is a brief discussion about prevention vs. cure for health and well being. Ancient Mesopotamia is also brought up and Jay & Saeed share a common passion about this ancient civilization.