Who or what is in the room with the therapist and the client when they meet for a session? Rhys and Aaron talk about family systems, internal systems, culture, context, burdens and baggage and all the things that accompany a person into a conversation. We talk about what the client brings…and what the counselor brings! We explore what it means to say, “You’ve never been alone in a room with a person.” Further we explore philosophical and spiritual traditions that inform us, ponder whether or not a person is comprised of just their thoughts and body, or if we are more complex than that. We push the severe limits of a strictly materialistic worldview when attempting this most sacred of endeavors that is being present with another human.

This episode of SMART Counsel features the following professionals:

Rhys Pasimio – newpatterncounseling.com

Aaron Kelsay – progresscounselingpdx.com

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The Master’s in Counseling program at Multnomah University and New Pattern Counseling present this podcast as a resource for aspiring and current professionals, as well as members of the greater community. The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent those of Multnomah University or its faculty or New Pattern Counseling.