Thorin and Mauisnake are joined by Mateusz "mantuu" Wilczewski to discuss the quality of tier 2 circuit of Counter-strike, Complexity succeeding in playing moneyball, NAVI's lack of a star player, the downfall of zews and cadiaN's reputations following their departures from Team Liquid, controversial tech from zont1x and donk, and more.

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