Ben and Greg are joined by Ray Cox / Reizor of insert quest here to catch up, talk about their game of cloned angels and community Make Our Own Heaven, from design to production.

While this has been recorded before the launch, Make Our Own Heaven is currently on Kickstarter as a part of Zinequest 2022 for a physical printing. Ray can be found on Twitter @UselRay1500, with insert quest here, and on itch.io.