Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn't really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working.

In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows.

[14:29] - “I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn't get any uglier than that.” ~ Chuck Carpenter

[19:44] - “Sometimes you just don't get to win all the battles. That's just part of software engineering.” ~ Chuck Carpenter

[27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there's less resistance on all fronts. Like you don't have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” Robbie Wagner

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