Yildiz introduces Dr Diane Rogers a social psychologist of the Core Insights Institute who is a researcher. Dr Diane is doing a research of the Family Constellations modality on the advent of Yildiz’s latest book Lets Take the Crap Out of Psychotherapy, gaining first place in several categories in Amazon, published March 2025. The discussion centres around the some of the topics in the book and the necessity of taking take the next step in engaging in independent research to test some of the claims made so as to produce useful and comprehensive data for the field of mental health and higher education.

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