In this solo recap episode, Ashlan and Tory unpack key lessons from their conversation with Drew Norton, the Everyday Sales Leader, including why ambitious professionals often hit ceilings inside organizations, and how entrepreneurship can unlock a new level of growth. They also dig into why sales is part of every business (even if you hate the label), why outsourcing sales too early can backfire, and how to build a support network so entrepreneurship doesn’t feel like an island.
Why listen: If you’re building a business and sales feels “icky,” overwhelming, or like something you want to hand off immediately, this episode gives you a more human, practical way to think about sales, and what to focus on first.
Favorite takeaways:
- High achievers often outgrow organizational ceilings. Entrepreneurship can be the “next bar” when you can’t progress further inside a company structure.
- Entrepreneurship requires a tribe. Community (biz besties, referrals, collaborators) isn’t optional, and it can be a real antidote to the loneliness of building something on your own.
- Filter advice aggressively. The loudest advice often comes from people who haven’t done the thing. Prioritize voices with context (coaches, peers, trusted operators) and pay attention to who you’re taking advice from.
- You’re in sales whether you claim it or not. If you own a business, you’re selling–your services, your offer, your value, and your outcomes.
- Don’t outsource sales too early. If you don’t understand your own sales process end-to-end, hiring someone else to “do sales” can waste time and money, plus it can misalign your messaging.
This episode references our conversation with Drew Norton, episode #111 on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube.
Host information:
- Co-Host, Ashlan Glazier-Anderson, Owner of AshbeanPDX Marketing
- Co-Host, Victoria (Tory) Proppe, Owner of Imagine Marketing Strategies
Connect:
- On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaketheLeap-Today
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- With Ashlan:
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- https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashlan-glazier-anderson
- With Tory:
- https://www.instagram.com/imaginemarketingstrategies
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoriaproppe
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