Khalilah and Ryan invite George Barrett, Executive Director of the Marian Cheek Jackson Center, to discuss the occupation of going to church, faith, and community. Speaking from the Southern Baptist, Pentecostal, and Catholic perspectives, we talk across the intricacies of race, queerness, and spirituality and how it has played into our everyday lives. Highlights include: Realizing that all educated people don't go to hell, the formation of the Church of OT Justice and Drag Liberation, and an affirmation of molecules AND God.