In this episode, we’re joined by two remarkable federal law enforcement veterans — one a proud TJC alumnus with nearly three decades as an FBI agent and author of Tenaha: Corruption and Cover-Up in Small Town Texas, the other a retired Secret Service agent and dedicated member of the TJC Foundation Board. 

Together, they co-host Back in Crime, a podcast where they revisit fascinating true crime stories. We dive into their unique journeys—from high-stakes investigations, presidential protection, and now storytelling through their podcast.