n this discussion, the panel explores the ongoing debate between natural ability and hard work, particularly in shooting sports, leadership, and life challenges. Key questions revolve around how much of success is attributed to talent versus dedication. While talent can provide a head start, it's clear that individuals who put in deliberate practice, such as Michael Jordan or David Goggins, can often surpass those who rely solely on innate abilities. Examples of both naturally talented individuals who maintain success (like Usain Bolt) and those who achieve greatness through hard work highlight the balance between these factors. Psychological theories like Carol Dweck’s Growth Mindset and Anders Ericsson’s Deliberate Practice emphasize the importance of perseverance and structured effort. Ultimately, the discussion leans toward the necessity of both talent and tenacity, but when push comes to shove, hard-earned grit often triumphs under pressure.