Neville sits down in a little cabin at the NZ Collaborationz event in Whangarei in 2021 and interviews Irwin Seyb, blacksmith, wood turner, multi media artist and all round solid bloke. This was a stirring and emotional conversation where Irwin a usually reserved and private man opens up and talks about the value of the Collab family and how the friendships and connections formed at the Collaborationz events helped him through some trying times. The conversation is compfortable and honest and Irwin brings light to another aspect of what everyone gains by opening up and engaging in a collaborative journey.