What happens when something challenges what we believe?
In Part 2 of Think or Feel, Rod and Oyanga take the conversation deeper—starting with the current controversy surrounding former NBA players entering the WNBA draft and expanding into a much bigger question:
We explore sports, biology, identity, fairness, science, emotion, and the growing difficulty of having meaningful conversations with people who see the world differently.
But beneath the debate is an even deeper question about consciousness:
How much of what we believe is actually our own conscious choice—and how much is shaped by emotion, identity, experience, culture, media, and the people and systems around us?
If consciousness is more than simply thinking—if our feelings and our body's perception of the world are part of how we experience reality—then what happens when those feelings become attached to our beliefs?
Can we observe our own reactions before they become our conclusions?
Can we disagree without becoming enemies?
Can we change our minds without feeling like we've lost ourselves?
And when our identity is challenged, are we genuinely searching for truth—or simply looking for confirmation of what we already believe?
Maybe the real question isn't who's right.
Maybe it's whether we're still conscious enough to recognize why we believe what we believe.
Male Players in WNBA Draft Oyanga and Rod discussed the controversy surrounding male players, including Enes Kanter and Royce White, attempting to join the WNBA draft, focusing on issues of identity, sports, and fairness. Oyanga expressed strong opposition to the idea, suggesting that if men want to play in a women's league, a separate league should be created. They also briefly mentioned Caitlyn Jenner's input on the matter. Consciousness and Skill Development Rod and Oyanga discussed the concept of consciousness, building on their previous episode where they explored how experts lack a clear definition of consciousness. They examined whether consciousness emerges from feelings rather than thoughts, using examples like animals and plants to illustrate different levels of consciousness. Oyanga explained the four stages of skill development (unconscious incompetence, conscious incompetence, conscious competence, and unconscious competence) using the example of learning to tie shoes to demonstrate how consciousness evolves in understanding and ability. Unconscious Competence in Expert Performance Oyanga and Rod discussed the concept of unconscious competence, using boxing as an example to illustrate how experts can perform complex actions without conscious thought. Rod explained that being "in the zone" represents a higher state of consciousness where intuitive thinking operates faster than logical analysis, allowing athletes to predict and respond to opponents' moves instinctively. They concluded that this faster intuitive consciousness exists before logical thought and is connected to our emotional brain, which can process information more quickly than the logical mind. Emotional vs Logical Response Timing Oyanga asked Rod about the relationship between emotional and logical responses, specifically questioning whether emotions react faster than logic. Rod explained that this phenomenon is tied to what he described as a "sixth sense" - a higher mental faculty that processes sensory information faster than logical thinking can process it. Rod illustrated this with examples of instinctive reactions to threats in the environment, noting that these emotional responses happen before logical analysis can conclude the situation.