In this episode of Walkabout Talkabouts, WMG creator Lucas Martell plays through Shangri-La with the team from Pontoco independent studio behind The Last Clockwinder. The conversation bounces around how they got into game development, the leap into virtual reality, conceiving and implementing unusual game mechanics, publishing games, working with Cyan, incongruent college degrees and winding career paths. Find out how independent developers make the gears all turn.