Zac Thompson nearly makes Dan's head explode in this conversation about Doctor Otto Octavius. Zac joins us to talk about his latest series Devil's Reign Superior Four which starts four Doc Ocks from across the multiverse. Dan and Zac chat about the learned emotional tools Ock found during his time as Spider-Man, how he has changed since, and all things Ock. Be sure to tune in to hear Dan sing his new hit jingle about his friend and yours, Zac "The Mushroom Man" Thompson!