This is a double Matt episode of the HOSS talks FOSS! The Head of Open Source Strategy at Percona, Matt Yonkovit, sits down with Matt Farina, Distinguished Engineer at SUSE to talk about starting out in open source, what helped Matt become a better contributor in the community, and his work on many projects including OpenStack, Kubernetes, and Rancher.  Matt Farina talks about how his drive to understand how things work lead him into the depths of some open source code (from Drupal to OpenStack, to Rancher).  Matt was drawn to containers, orchestration, docker, and technologies like Kubernetes, etc. The pair of Matts dig into the ongoing and upcoming projects at Rancher and Suse, their shared experience in Kubernetes,  and Matt’s ( Farina ) work with the CNCF as part of their Technical Oversight Committee (TOC).