In this episode of the show, we talk golf course architecture with architect Nathan Crace. Nathan is a fascinating guy and a great Twitter follow, as well now a podcast host of his own "The Lipouts Podcast."

The conversation centers on Nathan's current portfolio of work, what it looks like and how it has progressed over the years. We discuss his beginnings as an architect, building his own three-hole course in his parents' Indiana backyard so he could play the game. Nathan shares his influences, including a great story about Bob Cupp.

We dig in on the flood of architectural opinions on social media, what they might miss and the tribal nature of favoring certain styles over others. Nathan takes a step back as we discuss the multi-dimensional nature of really understanding architecture as opposed to taking a more binary approach.

Finally, we talk about Nathan's new podcast and his great work at The Refuge in Mississippi, the things that are keeping him most busy these days.