Ron and Cyndi interview the cast and director of CBS's MacGyver about cybersecurity in entertainment and real life. Lucas Till plays MacGyver, Triston Mays plays a hacker named Riley Davis and David Straiton is the director. We discuss why cybersecurity is difficult to communicate to the general public and why it does not seem exciting. We also talk about how the entertainment industry uses tech and was impacted by the Sony hack of 2014. And lastly, we draw on the team's experiences with Star Trek, X-Men, and science fiction in general and talk about future technologies.