Harkening back to Dwight D. Eisenhower, "plans are useless, but planning is indispensable." Few people I know are as detail oriented as Jacob Hodges. He not only provided me with an invaluable opportunity at UVA (in response to a 2014 email that gets read on the podcast), but he's taught me a lot over the years. Since our shared time at Virginia, Hodges has become a math teacher and the offensive coordinator of Atlee High School. In this episode we discuss paying attention to detail, where to find learning material, and the benefits of having perspective.

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