With Hertha BSC out of action on the last two match days, there's been a decided lack of Ha Ho He on the podcast. A full-blown in-house coronavirus quarantine kept the team away from the pitch for two weeks, leading to a pile-up of make-up fixtures that struck fear in the hearts of many a Herthaner trying to make it through a relegation battle unscathed.

Matt (Talking Fussball's resident Hertha obsessive) was beginning to feel a few pangs of withdrawal, so he decided to up the Hertha dial to 11. An anyway, the team's early results are in - a draw and a win in the first of two games in hand - and now the outlook is...pretty good! Listen in as he works through his cautious optimism with Joe Gould, co-host of the Don't Poke the Bearcast, a still-rather-new show dedicated to Hertha BSC.

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