The foals got back to winning this week, showing us what can happen when their attack is on song: A thrilling 4-goal performance that was enough to take down a very game Eintracht.

Matt gets his old buddy Abel Meszaros on the line for a chat about that game, about the hard-to-judge qualities of this year's Bayern, the staying power of Wolfsburg and Freiburg, and yes, a little bit about the boring-ass Revierderby. Enjoy!

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