Ep. 141 of the Ninja Rob podcast. We talk to Jiu-Jitsu Blue Belt and hardcore music scene legend Joe "Hardcore" Mckay. Our conversation takes us from his early days of city violence to his current passion for the gentle art. Find out about how a blue belt can love jiu-jitsu as much or more than most black belts. We all have a path. Joe's took him through some rough times. But on the other end of it all, he found jiu-jitsu. His passion for hardcore music and BJJ are evident in every second of this episode.