Sometimes it feels like there's no way to reach people who disagree with us on important topics like immigration, LGBTQIA rights, or how to fix our broken healthcare system. It can feel pointless, like you're talking to a brick wall. Bethany Simonsen will tell us about her journey from being a devout Mormon to becoming a UU, and what experiences helped knock down the walls that kept her from hearing what the other side was saying. There are things we can do to create meaningful dialogue and move past the conflict inherent in Us vs Them.