Shannon Foley Martinez discusses how to talk to extremists and people in otherwise hateful spaces. 

During the episode we touched on accessing trauma and resilience using ACE scores, you can find a walk-through of it here. 

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The interview today was conducted by Sina Kashefipour and show is produced by Chelsea Daymon and Sina Kashefipour.

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