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- When the Smart Marketing Move Looks Irrational with Phill Agnew
Sometimes the smartest marketing ideas are the ones that look irrational on paper. But behavioral science can explain why they work.
Nudge host Phill Agnew joins Chris to unpack the psychology behind some of marketing’s most counterintuitive ideas. Like: Why did Red Bull charge more for a smaller can? Why did Avis advertise that it was #2? And why might spending millions on a Super Bowl ad actually make the ad more effective?
From making more small bets to admitting your weaknesses, Phill explains why understanding how people actually behave can lead marketers to some pretty unexpected conclusions.
Links to Learn More:
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51 min - When the Smart Marketing Move Looks Irrational with Phill Agnew
Sometimes the smartest marketing ideas are the ones that look irrational on paper. But behavioral science can explain why they work.
Nudge host Phill Agnew joins Chris to unpack the psychology behind some of marketing’s most counterintuitive ideas. Like: Why did Red Bull charge more for a smaller can? Why did Avis advertise that it was #2? And why might spending millions on a Super Bowl ad actually make the ad more effective?
From making more small bets to admitting your weaknesses, Phill explains why understanding how people actually behave can lead marketers to some pretty unexpected conclusions.
Links to Learn More:
Check out Phill Agnew's podcast, Nudge
Follow Chris Savage on LinkedIn
Subscribe to Talking Too Loud on Wistia
Watch on YouTube
Follow Talking Too Loud on TikTok
Love what you heard? Leave us a review!
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49 min - Why B2B Brands Need to Give Up Some Control with Heike Young
What happens when the perfectly polished content your team spent weeks making gets 40 views, while an employee’s LinkedIn post reaches thousands? Heike Young joins Chris Savage to talk about the rise of people-generated content, why personality is becoming more valuable as information gets commoditized, and why B2B brands may need to loosen their grip on control to actually earn attention.
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49 min - Why B2B Brands Need to Give Up Some Control with Heike Young
What happens when the perfectly polished content your team spent weeks making gets 40 views, while an employee’s LinkedIn post reaches thousands? Heike Young joins Chris Savage to talk about the rise of people-generated content, why personality is becoming more valuable as information gets commoditized, and why B2B brands may need to loosen their grip on control to actually earn attention.
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50 min - The Odyssey, AI, and the Future of Video with Chris Lavigne
What can Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey teach us about making video in the age of AI?
Chris Savage and Wistia’s Head of Video, Chris Lavigne, get on a boat to talk about Nolan’s commitment to practical filmmaking, the rise of AI slop, and what happens when generative AI makes content easier than ever to produce. Plus: why creative taste matters more than ever, where AI can actually make video better, and why having more tools doesn’t necessarily lead to better work.
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48 min - The Odyssey, AI, and the Future of Video with Chris Lavigne
What can Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey teach us about making video in the age of AI?
Chris Savage and Wistia’s Head of Video, Chris Lavigne, get on a boat to talk about Nolan’s commitment to practical filmmaking, the rise of AI slop, and what happens when generative AI makes content easier than ever to produce. Plus: why creative taste matters more than ever, where AI can actually make video better, and why having more tools doesn’t necessarily lead to better work.
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50 min - AI Slop the Fight to Keep Social Human
Can you actually tell when a post was written by AI—and should it matter?
In this special episode, Wistia’s social media team joins the conversation about LinkedIn’s “Seems like AI slop” reporting option and what it reveals about trust, authenticity, and the changing attention economy.
The group explores why real content is increasingly mistaken for AI, how visible effort and expertise build credibility, and where brands should preserve the human voice while using AI to work more efficiently. They also discuss niche communities, creative risk-taking, and why experimentation needs to be followed by transparency.
The takeaway: The most useful question isn’t whether AI was involved. It’s whether a real person brought judgment, care, and a meaningful point of view to the work.
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47 min - Building Customer Relationships in the Age of AI (with Klaviyo’s Jake Cohen)
What separates a brand that feels like it gets you from one that just feels creepy? According to Jake Cohen, VP at Klaviyo, it's not the AI model — it's the context you give it.
In this episode of Talkin' Too Loud, Jake breaks down how leading brands are using AI agents to create genuinely helpful, human-feeling customer experiences at scale. We get into the mechanics of LLMs (without the jargon), why most automations are built backwards, and what the best marketers understand about human nature that the rest miss.
In this episode:
- Why context management is the most underrated skill in AI marketing
- The difference between "pull" and "push" experiences — and why that distinction changes everything
- What a great in-store conversation has to do with your email automations
- How B2C CRM is about to reshape the way B2B brands think about their customers
- Jake's essential reading list for marketers navigating the AI era
Whether you're building automations in Klaviyo, experimenting with AI agents, or just trying to make your brand communications feel less robotic — this one's worth your time.
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46 min - What's the Deal With MCPs?
MCPs are everywhere—but what are they, really?
This week, Chris Savage is joined by Sasha Friedman and Sam Balter to break down one of AI's fastest-growing technologies, share the real workflows it's unlocking for marketers, and discuss why connecting AI to your tools may fundamentally change how teams work together.
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40 min - Is This Business? | 20 Years of Building Wistia with Chris Savage & Brendan Schwartz
Twenty years ago, Chris Savage and Brendan Schwartz thought they'd build a company, sell it in six months, and move on.
Instead, they built Wistia.
In this special anniversary episode of Talking Too Loud, the best friends turned co-founders look back at the moments that shaped Wistia—from a house full of roommates in Cambridge and a near-deal with HBO to growing Wistia into one of the leading video platforms for businesses.
With surprise guests, old videos, a few embarrassing stories, and plenty of hard-won lessons, Chris and Brendan revisit two decades of friendship and entrepreneurship, reminding us that building a company is ultimately about the people you build it with.
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About Talking Too Loud with Chris Savage
From the publisher's feed
Welcome to Talking Too Loud, a show for people building brands, products, and content that actually stand out—where we try to unpack what’s working right now, and what’s just noise. Hosted by Wistia's…
CEO and loudest talker, Chris Savage.