Join us as Open Apple celebrates the 20th anniversary of the founding of premier Apple II programming group, Brutal Deluxe, developers of such famous games as LemminGS, The Tinies, Cogito, and Blockade; utilities including Fishhead, T40, and Convert 3200; and projects such as the Apple Cassette Archive.

In this special podcast episode, Ken interviews Brutal Deluxe members Antoine Vignau and Olivier Zardini on the group’s history, what the Apple II and BBS scenes were like in France in the 1980s, how they acquired the rights and assets to popular licenses and ported them to the Apple II, their open source philosophy, and news from other French developers.