Chris Needham is a great friend, family man, executive leader, and pastor. (He's also one of my favorite Bible teachers!)

When he brought his son to hang out with us, I asked him to make a podcast with me about the need to keep pioneering leadership for the frontlines. I also wanted him to ask questions of me about my faith-based executive coaching.

We hit record, and the end-result turned into a PHENOMENAL conversation, spontaneous albeit, about how we can all navigate changes with a hopeful, pioneering approach.

Please enjoy this spontaneous conversation as much as I did, and check out Chris' work with Dwelling Place.

Prepare your leadership now!