From football player to parole officer, to box salesman, to writer- Jason Sullivan has seen it all when it comes to dealing with people, from the slums of prison to the slums of big business- making him an incredibly insightful guest on this episode of The Jeff Heilman Project.

Just to let you know, this week's content is explicit.

LINKS:

Rick Rubin's The Creative Act.

Daniel Pink's To Sell Is Human.

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