Spanny's UFC compadre Kyle Kingsbury returns for another podcaster-to-podcaster talk. The talk weaves in the COVID-19 pandemic as it emphasizes the good and ill in social media and daily routines. There's great stuff on training and relationships, including strong support for naps.

Kyle's book list (affiliate links): Science of Mindfulness, Lion Tracker's Guide to Life, Oxygen Advantage, Meditation in Action, Power vs. Force, Digital Minimalism, Conscious Loving, Quantum Spirituality.

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