You know "Spy vs. Spy" in MAD magazine? Well, this episode is just like that! Except it's Spy vs. Spanny, and not "versus" because these two get along well. In fact, Spanny has already appeared on the podcast hosted by this spy, Pete A. Turner, a U.S. Army combat veteran who served in counter-intelligence. Pete shares lessons in exploring cultures that are unfamiliar and strained by both internal and external conflict. His insights are valuable in these days in intense disagreement related to viral outbreak and race relations.

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