It can happen to any one of us. A software developer working at a big company is suddenly fired by his company's automated system and no one knows why or how to stop the system from terminating the employee. The story went viral this Summer, with everyone weighing in on the perils of automation and befuddled human beings who may become victims of rogue technology. Charlie discusses this troubling scenario, among other things, with  guest, John Pavley, Senior Vice President of Software Engineering at Viacom