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A free pony, a borrowed trailer, and a kid who wouldn’t quit—that’s where Matt Bischoff’s horsemanship started. From mucking stalls for lessons to hunter-jumper roots and long miles packing in the Sierra Nevada, Matt built a life around taking “problem” equines and turning them into steady, useful partners. We sat down with him to explore what it really takes to gentle Mustangs, start colts, and lead safe, balanced pack strings through the backcountry.
Matt dismantles the biggest myths about wild horses. Mustangs aren’t a monolith; they’re individuals shaped by survival, wired for self-preservation, and quick to read your energy. He walks us through the foundation he relies on—pressure and release, timing and feel, and the 50/50 balance of trust and respect. Dominance for dominance’s sake won’t work, but neither will soft, vague friendship. The goal is fair, consistent leadership that teaches a horse to check in when stress hits.
You’ll hear the unforgettable story of Blue, a blue roan gathered from Modoc National Forest, passed between owners and trainers, written off as dangerous, and nearly euthanized. With patience and precision, Matt turned Blue into a reliable saddle and pack horse—one tough enough to stare down a grizzly and steady enough to pack elk. That transformation wasn’t magic; it was meticulous work: varying routines to avoid mindless repetition, staying present to catch small behaviors before they explode, and never losing sight of the horse’s identity.
Trail and packing fans get a masterclass in practical prep. Matt explains why a “just a trail horse” still needs full-body control, how to pony safely from round pen to open country, when to introduce cruppers and britching, and how to rig breakaways through the saddle tree to protect your string. We also talk about confidence—how to bring it into the round pen, why horses sense hesitation, and how clinic miles helped Matt translate barn lessons into life.
If you’ve ever wondered whether an “untrainable” horse can become invaluable, this conversation will change your mind and your program. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves Mustangs, and leave a quick review—then tell us the horse that taught you the most.
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A free pony, a borrowed trailer, and a kid who wouldn’t quit—that’s where Matt Bischoff’s horsemanship started. From mucking stalls for lessons to hunter-jumper roots and long miles packing in the Sierra Nevada, Matt built a life around taking “problem” equines and turning them into steady, useful partners. We sat down with him to explore what it really takes to gentle Mustangs, start colts, and lead safe, balanced pack strings through the backcountry.
Matt dismantles the biggest myths about wild horses. Mustangs aren’t a monolith; they’re individuals shaped by survival, wired for self-preservation, and quick to read your energy. He walks us through the foundation he relies on—pressure and release, timing and feel, and the 50/50 balance of trust and respect. Dominance for dominance’s sake won’t work, but neither will soft, vague friendship. The goal is fair, consistent leadership that teaches a horse to check in when stress hits.
You’ll hear the unforgettable story of Blue, a blue roan gathered from Modoc National Forest, passed between owners and trainers, written off as dangerous, and nearly euthanized. With patience and precision, Matt turned Blue into a reliable saddle and pack horse—one tough enough to stare down a grizzly and steady enough to pack elk. That transformation wasn’t magic; it was meticulous work: varying routines to avoid mindless repetition, staying present to catch small behaviors before they explode, and never losing sight of the horse’s identity.
Trail and packing fans get a masterclass in practical prep. Matt explains why a “just a trail horse” still needs full-body control, how to pony safely from round pen to open country, when to introduce cruppers and britching, and how to rig breakaways through the saddle tree to protect your string. We also talk about confidence—how to bring it into the round pen, why horses sense hesitation, and how clinic miles helped Matt translate barn lessons into life.
If you’ve ever wondered whether an “untrainable” horse can become invaluable, this conversation will change your mind and your program. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves Mustangs, and leave a quick review—then tell us the horse that taught you the most.
Support the show