Today we begin an investigation into a big topic. So large it exceeds the very boundaries of the medium. Phil Surdam joins me to discuss Norbert Weiner and the history and impact of Cybernetics. We look into the remorse and the fears that Weiner had regarding this new science. Technocracy is a child of Cybernetics and increased social control is its sister. This episode starts with a montage that is designed to get under your skin and make your spin tinkle with fright. Joblessness, human beings becoming resources for a fully mechanised world and the constant fear of nuclear war. The terminator may be nothing more than the fever dream of James Cameron, yet the impact it has had on pop culture and our feelings about technology have been heard and felt for two decades now. Unfortunately, Schwarzenegger isn't holding out his hand and asking us to come with him if we want to live. Instead it's the scary world of quantum computing that we need to be on guard for, that is where our story today begins and over a series of episodes it will progress. Of course, whenever you're dealing with a subject like this the spectre of Ted Kaczynski is never too far away.