June 04, 2019

Tango Uncorked #8 - Kim Fraczek - "The only way we are going to find answers is by having conversations with each other."

1 hour 39 minutes

I sit down with my good friend Kim Fraczek in Bushwick and we talk about all of her work with the Sane Energy Project. Her recent success in stopping a pipeline from being built, PLUS, her funny tango stories.

She has some very crazy tango stories.

Show notes will be coming soon.

(02:29) Kim Fraczek shares her experiences in environmental activism, including a recent victory in stopping a pipeline, and highlights the systemic issues of greed and competition rooted in capitalism and patriarchy.

(06:00) Kim contrasts her observations of community-oriented living in Cuba with the systemic greed and power dynamics in the U.S., emphasizing the historical context of slavery and genocide as contributors to current societal issues.

(12:07) The conversation delves into the challenges of breaking bad laws and creating good ones, particularly in the context of fossil fuel regulation and the biased role of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC).

(18:20) Kim recounts a successful two-and-a-half-year campaign to stop a fracked gas pipeline, emphasizing the collaborative efforts and the profit-driven nature of the fossil fuel industry.

(22:59) Kim discusses the guaranteed 14% return for pipeline companies under the Natural Gas Act, highlighting the lack of actual need for the gas and the industry's focus on exporting to higher-paying markets.

(32:10) Kim reflects on the importance of listening to and following the leadership of women of color in Congress, who are challenging systemic issues and inspiring societal change.

(37:22) The conversation explores the parallels between tango and activism, noting how the dance fosters equality and community while also supporting advocacy efforts.

(45:24) Kim shares her frustrations with unsolicited feedback during tango lessons, contrasting the attitudes of male and female partners, and emphasizes the importance of teamwork and collaborative language in dance.

(01:18:04) Kim and Adam discuss the environmental and social implications of cannabis legalization, advocating for its potential to replace harmful industries and benefit marginalized communities.

(01:21:04) Kim critiques the reliance on outdated energy systems and advocates for renewable alternatives, emphasizing the need for community dialogue and collaboration to address systemic oppression.

(01:24:43) The conversation highlights the impact of gentrification and the importance of transitioning to a regenerative economy, focusing on community empowerment and consent.

(01:31:08) Kim reflects on the privileges of being white in America and the systemic oppression faced by marginalized groups, emphasizing the importance of action over good intentions in addressing these issues.

(01:37:13) The episode concludes with reflections on the complexities of working within harmful industries, the importance of community, and upcoming tango workshops and events.

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