Join Pat and Andrew in part 2 of their conversation with Chris Eddie from AlchemyRPG. In this episode, you can listen to them talk about methods of measuring Immersion and debate as to whether or not "ease of use" and fun are the same thing. Towards the end they also discuss the impact that different tools like audio chat, video calling, and digital avatars can have on the relationships you build when playing ttrpgs online.

Guest: Chris Eddie from AlchemyRPG. You can find him on Twitter @chrisjeddie.

Discussion Topics: Digital Technology's Effect on Immersion and Fun.

Sponsor: Start Playing Games. Whether your are a TTRPG player or a DM, find a group you can instantly book a game with by going to StartPlaying.Games. Check out Pat and Anderw's episode with the company's founder here.

Credits: Gabriel Gonzalez from theinspiredbard.com for the use of our theme song and Lee Smithson for the voiceover recording.

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