Imagine bringing Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller back to life and showing them today’s tariff fights — one would demand the ledger, the other would map the choke points. This episode walks through their very different instincts: Carnegie’s obsession with efficiency and open markets, and Rockefeller’s love of systems, control, and scale.

We keep it short and sharp, like two old titans debating the real stakes of trade wars: not patriotism, but who gains power and how capitalism rearranges itself when borders get messy. Come hear which side you’d root for.