Slip on your tiniest pair of shorts, bikini top and a pair of pointy toe heels cuz it's time for Tate McRae's new album, So Close To What. You may think you're listening to NPR with this one, but we promise it isn't! We're just feeling our intellectual oats. But also there are a ton of tangents.

It's a fun one, folks!

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