In this month's episode we speak to Gabriel Zucman about his new book with co-author Emmanuel Saez - Triumph of Injustice: How the Rich Dodge Taxes and How to Make Them Pay. Plus, as Extinction Rebellion has held a fortnight of protests around the world over the climate emergency, we discuss the surprisingly small number of companies which determine whether investment will go into a better future, or onto a continued path of destruction. We discuss how tax justice and a different vision of growth can lead us back from the brink.