In this episode, Attia and Nico discuss all things Taylor Swift: her recent break up with Joe Alwyn, her accomplishments, Swiftie fan conspiracy theories, and Taylor’s easter eggs. Attia shares her spiritual experience at the Eras’ concert, Nico somehow shoe horns Shakira into the conversation, and Attia gags at the name of John Mayer.

Do people have unrealistic and unhealthy parasocial relationships with Taylor? Are we reading too much into an artist’s lyrics? And how does Usher’s “Confessions” play into all of this?

Hosted by Attia and Nico

Music by Felipe Guerrero

Special Thanks: Omer, Shabnam

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