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#339: Lara, Marc, Link, and special guest Kayla gush about the newest Taylor Swift album. They discuss favorite songs, the effectiveness of lyrics, and the terrifying power of fandom and parasocial relationships.
Transcript
Marc Cuiriz 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about. My name is Marc Cuiriz and I am joined by Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:24
Hey,
Marc Cuiriz 0:25
Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:27
Hi.
Marc Cuiriz 0:28
And our very special guest, Kayla.
Kayla Devorak 0:32
Hello.
Marc Cuiriz 0:34
So guys, what are we? What are we talking about this week?
Lara Taylor 0:40
well,
Kayla Devorak 0:40
that was a big sigh.
Lara Taylor 0:42
After the after the show last week, we signed off and in the after party, Marc and I started talking about Taylor Swift a lot cuz the album was just dropped, just dropped. And so I said, we should have Kayla on to talk about Taylor Swift and here we are.
Marc Cuiriz 1:10
It’s really funny because I’m actually joining, I’m actually doing this and I consider myself a very, very, very fresh Swifty. Admittedly, I was a person that never really listened to a whole lot of her music, obviously, whatever was popular at the time, like any of her like your top hits, I’ve listened to I’d hear it but I never like really got deep into her music. My wife, actually, she’s the Swifty in this relationship. And she’s been sort of broadening my horizons with music. She initially got me into country music or like country pop ish music. But it was always the Taylor Swift where I was like, nope, nope, putting up the walls, but not the resistance. I don’t want to I don’t want to get into that. Mainly just because I wanted to be edgy and cool. Like nah, I don’t want to be part of Taylor Swift. And then the more I was listening to her music The more I was like, You know what? I like Taylor Swift but like her early stuff like her country stuff. It was like what I initially liked. And then Midnight’s man, then Midnight’s and everything has changed everything’s changed
Lara Taylor 2:29
everything’s changed marc. You sound a lot like me when I used to be like, I I’m not gonna watch anime no anime in my house and then Sailor Moon and DBZ happened and then all the other anime that I’ve watched in my life. I’m a nerd but I won’t play WoW. And I was addicted to World of Warcraft for a decade of my life I don’t know it’s interesting because Taylor Swift started as country and I hate country music. I’m
Kayla Devorak 3:04
hard agree.
Lara Taylor 3:06
And that is actually what started me like I listened to her early stuff more than I listened to her middle stuff although at our wedding Nina and I had quite a few Taylor Swift songs on the playlist
Kayla Devorak 3:19
I’m gonna need that setlist
Lara Taylor 3:21
I will I have an entire playlist on my Spotify I’ll share it with you.
Kayla Devorak 3:31
So my friend so Taylor announced a tour and my friend who is a Tennessee born and raised Taylor fan since she was a child was like, Oh 12 year old me will be so happy if I get tickets to this concert and my response was 12 year old me would be appalled. Because I was a hardcore Taylor anti for a very long time. And then 2020 happen and then folklore came out and folklore is great. Everyone should listen to folklore. It was like she had stepped into high school me’s feelings and it was very upsetting and then I fell down a rabbit hole and I’ve been here ever since. So welcome to the T party because I’ve been here for like two years spinning in circles randomly telling Lara about random shit.
Marc Cuiriz 4:45
Oh and shake it off of course right
Kayla Devorak 4:47
and shaking it off
Lara Taylor 4:48
shaking off that was on the wedding playlist. For sure
Kayla Devorak 4:50
of course it was of course it was.
Lara Taylor 4:53
Yeah. Link let’s hear what you have to say about taylor swift
Link Keller 5:00
Taylor Swift’s first album Taylor Swift was one of the few CDs that I purchased with my own money in high school when it came out so 2006 I, I burned CDs from all of my friends, I didn’t have pocket money to spend on stuff. So it was very rare that I actually purchased albums with my own money. But that was one of them. I really liked that one. And then in her her next album, The Romeo and Juliet song Love Story. Mmm, loved that. But she I grew up listening to country music and so I do have a fondness for some country music. And going into my 20s I was very much of the Taylor Swift abandoned her country roots to become a pop star like it’s whatever, I don’t care. I didn’t listen to a lot of pop music except what was on the radio, which I don’t know if you guys know this includes Taylor Swift.
Kayla Devorak 6:05
So much taylor swift.
Link Keller 6:07
So much. It’s so I’ve never really considered myself a Taylor Swift, like a fan. past that initial like, I bought a CD. But she has always been around and she’s always been playing in the background of my life. This is the first time I have sat down and listened to a Taylor Swift album since probably 2007. So that’s been kind of exciting for me. I it’s it’s not it’s not my favorite thing. I’m not I’m not going to identify as a Swifty. Now, but I did like Midnight’s I thought it was a good album. I listened to the 3am version, because I’m not going to seven extra songs. Hell yeah, I gotta check that out. That’s exciting.
Kayla Devorak 6:55
The double album? Yeah.
Link Keller 6:57
And I enjoyed it. I liked the like, sort of more electronica taste to it. Yeah. A lot of it reminded me of Lorde’s first album, which I really liked. But yeah, I’m excited to talk about this. I think Taylor Swift is famous for a fucking reason people really resonate with her work. The music is consistently good. And the lyrics I think, is what most people are really connecting with. And yeah,
Kayla Devorak 7:29
she can write
Link Keller 7:30
she can. Especially at midnight. To 3am
Kayla Devorak 7:37
She’s she, she’s, she’s something man.
Link Keller 7:43
Yeah, that’s my that’s my, my swift background.
Lara Taylor 7:48
haha so good
Marc Cuiriz 7:49
Wow, All right, I’m gonna cut that out.
Lara Taylor 7:57
Seven minutes, seven and a half minutes in something like that.
Marc Cuiriz 8:00
Yeah. Okay,
Link Keller 8:01
so I haven’t um, there are two music videos out for this album.
Kayla Devorak 8:07
I haven’t watched the music videos yet.
Link Keller 8:08
I haven’t either of The music videos,
Marc Cuiriz 8:10
I watched the both of them like within hours after they dropped
Lara Taylor 8:14
I have only seen a tiktok that critiques the music videos.
Link Keller 8:19
Before we get into criticism. This is just for the one person who’s watched these music videos. How were they were they cool? enjoyable? Good production?
Marc Cuiriz 8:27
Yeah, antihero. Oh, yeah, they both had really great production. Like they were really well done. I liked the antihero one a lot. I thought that was like really cool how she was doing it. And the way it was like sort of portraying like these two different aspects of her Bejeweled. It was different. It was good. But it was different than what I was expecting. In terms of ...
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By Geek Therapy Network#339: Lara, Marc, Link, and special guest Kayla gush about the newest Taylor Swift album. They discuss favorite songs, the effectiveness of lyrics, and the terrifying power of fandom and parasocial relationships.
Transcript
Marc Cuiriz 0:11
Welcome to GT radio on the Geek Therapy network. Here at Geek Therapy. We believe that the best way to understand each other and ourselves is through the media we care about. My name is Marc Cuiriz and I am joined by Lara Taylor.
Lara Taylor 0:24
Hey,
Marc Cuiriz 0:25
Link Keller.
Link Keller 0:27
Hi.
Marc Cuiriz 0:28
And our very special guest, Kayla.
Kayla Devorak 0:32
Hello.
Marc Cuiriz 0:34
So guys, what are we? What are we talking about this week?
Lara Taylor 0:40
well,
Kayla Devorak 0:40
that was a big sigh.
Lara Taylor 0:42
After the after the show last week, we signed off and in the after party, Marc and I started talking about Taylor Swift a lot cuz the album was just dropped, just dropped. And so I said, we should have Kayla on to talk about Taylor Swift and here we are.
Marc Cuiriz 1:10
It’s really funny because I’m actually joining, I’m actually doing this and I consider myself a very, very, very fresh Swifty. Admittedly, I was a person that never really listened to a whole lot of her music, obviously, whatever was popular at the time, like any of her like your top hits, I’ve listened to I’d hear it but I never like really got deep into her music. My wife, actually, she’s the Swifty in this relationship. And she’s been sort of broadening my horizons with music. She initially got me into country music or like country pop ish music. But it was always the Taylor Swift where I was like, nope, nope, putting up the walls, but not the resistance. I don’t want to I don’t want to get into that. Mainly just because I wanted to be edgy and cool. Like nah, I don’t want to be part of Taylor Swift. And then the more I was listening to her music The more I was like, You know what? I like Taylor Swift but like her early stuff like her country stuff. It was like what I initially liked. And then Midnight’s man, then Midnight’s and everything has changed everything’s changed
Lara Taylor 2:29
everything’s changed marc. You sound a lot like me when I used to be like, I I’m not gonna watch anime no anime in my house and then Sailor Moon and DBZ happened and then all the other anime that I’ve watched in my life. I’m a nerd but I won’t play WoW. And I was addicted to World of Warcraft for a decade of my life I don’t know it’s interesting because Taylor Swift started as country and I hate country music. I’m
Kayla Devorak 3:04
hard agree.
Lara Taylor 3:06
And that is actually what started me like I listened to her early stuff more than I listened to her middle stuff although at our wedding Nina and I had quite a few Taylor Swift songs on the playlist
Kayla Devorak 3:19
I’m gonna need that setlist
Lara Taylor 3:21
I will I have an entire playlist on my Spotify I’ll share it with you.
Kayla Devorak 3:31
So my friend so Taylor announced a tour and my friend who is a Tennessee born and raised Taylor fan since she was a child was like, Oh 12 year old me will be so happy if I get tickets to this concert and my response was 12 year old me would be appalled. Because I was a hardcore Taylor anti for a very long time. And then 2020 happen and then folklore came out and folklore is great. Everyone should listen to folklore. It was like she had stepped into high school me’s feelings and it was very upsetting and then I fell down a rabbit hole and I’ve been here ever since. So welcome to the T party because I’ve been here for like two years spinning in circles randomly telling Lara about random shit.
Marc Cuiriz 4:45
Oh and shake it off of course right
Kayla Devorak 4:47
and shaking it off
Lara Taylor 4:48
shaking off that was on the wedding playlist. For sure
Kayla Devorak 4:50
of course it was of course it was.
Lara Taylor 4:53
Yeah. Link let’s hear what you have to say about taylor swift
Link Keller 5:00
Taylor Swift’s first album Taylor Swift was one of the few CDs that I purchased with my own money in high school when it came out so 2006 I, I burned CDs from all of my friends, I didn’t have pocket money to spend on stuff. So it was very rare that I actually purchased albums with my own money. But that was one of them. I really liked that one. And then in her her next album, The Romeo and Juliet song Love Story. Mmm, loved that. But she I grew up listening to country music and so I do have a fondness for some country music. And going into my 20s I was very much of the Taylor Swift abandoned her country roots to become a pop star like it’s whatever, I don’t care. I didn’t listen to a lot of pop music except what was on the radio, which I don’t know if you guys know this includes Taylor Swift.
Kayla Devorak 6:05
So much taylor swift.
Link Keller 6:07
So much. It’s so I’ve never really considered myself a Taylor Swift, like a fan. past that initial like, I bought a CD. But she has always been around and she’s always been playing in the background of my life. This is the first time I have sat down and listened to a Taylor Swift album since probably 2007. So that’s been kind of exciting for me. I it’s it’s not it’s not my favorite thing. I’m not I’m not going to identify as a Swifty. Now, but I did like Midnight’s I thought it was a good album. I listened to the 3am version, because I’m not going to seven extra songs. Hell yeah, I gotta check that out. That’s exciting.
Kayla Devorak 6:55
The double album? Yeah.
Link Keller 6:57
And I enjoyed it. I liked the like, sort of more electronica taste to it. Yeah. A lot of it reminded me of Lorde’s first album, which I really liked. But yeah, I’m excited to talk about this. I think Taylor Swift is famous for a fucking reason people really resonate with her work. The music is consistently good. And the lyrics I think, is what most people are really connecting with. And yeah,
Kayla Devorak 7:29
she can write
Link Keller 7:30
she can. Especially at midnight. To 3am
Kayla Devorak 7:37
She’s she, she’s, she’s something man.
Link Keller 7:43
Yeah, that’s my that’s my, my swift background.
Lara Taylor 7:48
haha so good
Marc Cuiriz 7:49
Wow, All right, I’m gonna cut that out.
Lara Taylor 7:57
Seven minutes, seven and a half minutes in something like that.
Marc Cuiriz 8:00
Yeah. Okay,
Link Keller 8:01
so I haven’t um, there are two music videos out for this album.
Kayla Devorak 8:07
I haven’t watched the music videos yet.
Link Keller 8:08
I haven’t either of The music videos,
Marc Cuiriz 8:10
I watched the both of them like within hours after they dropped
Lara Taylor 8:14
I have only seen a tiktok that critiques the music videos.
Link Keller 8:19
Before we get into criticism. This is just for the one person who’s watched these music videos. How were they were they cool? enjoyable? Good production?
Marc Cuiriz 8:27
Yeah, antihero. Oh, yeah, they both had really great production. Like they were really well done. I liked the antihero one a lot. I thought that was like really cool how she was doing it. And the way it was like sort of portraying like these two different aspects of her Bejeweled. It was different. It was good. But it was different than what I was expecting. In terms of ...