In this episode Eric and Shayna have a debate about Taylor Swift. She is currently on a World Tour that is shattering just about every record and the US Treasury has credited her impacting the American economy by billions of dollars. Yet, many struggle with her as an artist? Is she authentic? Many are wondering and some don't understand why she is so successful. Eric and Shayna explore some of dynamics of what is called the "Taylor Swift Effect" and this cultural moment we are in.